WB HD DVD: “Isolated Instances” Clarified?

Posted by James Segars on February 15, 2008 
Filed Under: Format War, HD DVD, Replication, Studios

warner1.jpgIt would seem as though yesterday’s article at DVDTown has gotten many in a tizzy over Warner’s future release policy, with HD DVD owners seeing a glimmer of hope, and Blu-ray fans disowning the statement due to poor word choice.

Well, the folks at DVDTown have once again contacted Ronnee dearest, and she goes on to further "clarify" what that sentence means. 

DVDTown: "Does this mean that it is possible Warner will release HD DVD titles after May 31st in isolated instances?"

Ronnee Sass: "It is not forseen, but not impossible."

There you have it folks.  Straight from the Sass.  Unfortunately for all of us, further clarification only seems to add further confusion and more fire to an already volatile subject.

So naturally, what do you make of all of this?

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20 Responses to “WB HD DVD: “Isolated Instances” Clarified?”

  1. Dave Cowl on February 15th, 2008 11:28 am

    There are many things that are not impossible, like winning the lottery.

    I think she is just saying that market conditions changing would change the future.

    Like if it was discovered the Blu-ray gives you cancer and everyone immediately dropped / tossed all their BDs and players, then Warner might release on HD DVD… :D

  2. Merrick97 on February 15th, 2008 11:32 am

    Yeah, with all the retailers dropping HD-DVD. Its absolutely unreasonable to believe that Warner will release any HD-DVD titles after May.

    Hell they may stop releasing them sooner.

  3. Bigdmelt12 on February 15th, 2008 11:36 am

    i doubt they would release them sooner since they still have a pretty solid customer base in hd dvd

  4. Dave Cowl on February 15th, 2008 11:45 am

    Well, Warner is the cornerstone of HD DVD (sadly enough). If you look at the announcements you see:

    Warner: 13
    Paramount: 4
    DreamWorks: 2
    Universal: 2

    Warner, who has publicly stated they will stop making HD DVDs, has by far the most announcements.

    With Universal having only two titles announced, you gotta wonder what they have planned..!

  5. DS2 on February 15th, 2008 12:16 pm

    With regard to Warners, it’s just good business to “never say never.”

    As for Paramount and Uni, I’d say they’re doing two things VERY well right now: diddly and squat.

    They don’t have some remarkable new plan for HD DVD, other than cutting bait. I wish it were otherwise, but it doesn’t take a genius to decipher such inaction by these companies as of late.

    They aren’t jumping ship, but they will go neutral–guaranteed. The only delay I could foresee is if they attempt a stalling tactic to try to pry free a bit of Sony’s Dubai-acquired funding.

  6. Mehar on February 15th, 2008 12:22 pm

    Mabye Para and Uni are waiting for the right time to mention new releases. If the Toshiba rumors are right then I really don’t know what to make of any of this.

  7. Felix on February 15th, 2008 12:49 pm

    This just shows it: no incentives to warner. so there, HD DVD fans.

    Besides, the demands for HD DVD is getting smaller, with retailers going blu only, and new adopters adopt Blu-ray. Yes, it is not impossible for warner to release HD DVD in future, but the demands is non-existant

  8. Tyler Pruitt on February 15th, 2008 1:05 pm


    How does this show Warner didn’t get incentives?

  9. Mehar on February 15th, 2008 1:08 pm

    Felix: Best Buy Canada is touting both, their not budging, im assuming Walmart will do the same here.

    30 million rednecks, thats alot of HD DVD players :) Im canadian so I can have that joke.

  10. Felix on February 15th, 2008 1:10 pm

    They are not forced to stop HD DVD completely, but they decided by itself to stop HD DVD for mass adoption to happen. They are definitely not under contract like paramount (which is forbidden to release on BD – also heard they destroyed BD copies). The style of how they become exclusive is different: Warner goes slowly, while paramount goes immediately.

  11. Mehar on February 15th, 2008 1:23 pm

    New Line, HBO, and countless others went immediatly, from what I have been able to pick up, it seems like Warner dosen’t want to leave completly, but it was something they had to do.

  12. Bigdmelt12 on February 15th, 2008 3:39 pm

    hate to break it to you, there had to be incentives involved. You dont just pick up your shit and leave if u dont have too. Especially when the market was changing for cheaper hd dvd players. A little late, but whatever. Sony has a good name, got them a lot so congrats to blu ray.. Ill wait til players arent overpriced

  13. Mehar on February 15th, 2008 5:14 pm

    A good name? Betamax, Diskman, Walkman, UMD?

  14. Mehar on February 15th, 2008 5:15 pm

    Oh not the kick ass walkman that plays cassestes, but the other one that they wanted to take over the portable audio business.

  15. Dave Cowl on February 15th, 2008 5:37 pm

    Like it or not, Sony sells a lot of things just because they are Sony. They are an adventurous company and as such have made some good and some bad choices.

    With Compact Disc we see how Sony and Philips joined efforts to produce a format that is now ubiquitous.

    With HD DVD and Blu-ray we see what happens if efforts are not merged. Same with DCC and Minidisc. SACD and DVD-A.

    Personally I suspect that Microsoft was behind the break down of talks of merging the formats. No proof, just a suspicion :D

  16. Mehar on February 15th, 2008 5:46 pm

    Actually it was Sony, HP and Microsoft came to Sony and they were like if you use HDi their will be no format war. But Sony was stubborn and they said they wanted to use Java, so Microsoft had nothing to do with it. If they used HDi then the 2 formats would techniqually have been one, their would be none of the profile crap, it would have been a fully finished format, etc.

  17. Dave Cowl on February 15th, 2008 6:06 pm

    So you agree that Microsoft’s insistence that HDi was included caused the format war?

    Sony is not the only member of the BDA btw…

  18. Mehar on February 15th, 2008 7:12 pm

    Um no, read the last paragraph, take the sources if you want. It was the BDA that practically declined, Microsoft was only representing the DVD forum, nothing more.

  19. Belard on February 16th, 2008 10:51 pm

    Read the whole thing, but from the Blu-Ray side. Remember, Microsoft is in a console war with SONY… SONY didn’t want Xbox type functionality in their hardware + royalities… and Microsoft didn’t want JAVA in the theirs. So its about money and pride and greed.

    At this time Microsoft isn’t that strong as a force for media control… but in the next 3-5 years who knows.

    What would have made HD-DVD deadly is IF they could have made the player SO cheap that it would have only added $25 to the cost of each XBOX system. That of course meant $200 and under players from 2 years ago.

    And PLEASE PLEASE stop with this “finished profile” crap. I see in the HD-DVD forum and blogs etc about constant HD-DVD Firmware updates because someone would make a HDi code that the player couldn’t deal with, usually causing crashes. While most blu discs will just work.

    Both sides were selling develop early adopter technology.

  20. James Segars on February 17th, 2008 12:06 am


    Firmware updates are expected and appreciated by many, and Blu-ray is no stranger to them. Therefore, the distinction between profiles and firmware updates is as follows…

    Firmware = Software

    Profiles = Hardware

    People resent and despise Blu-ray for the unfinished profiles because it leads to legacy/playback issues that cannot be resolved (ex. a 1.0 player can’t play back the bonus view from Sunshine) through firmware updates, not to mention the majority of Blu-ray owners can’t download their firmware updates thanks to the lack of standardized ethernet ports on all standalones.

    If for no other reason, that is why anyone who is considering buying into Blu should wait until the DMP-BD50 (Profile 2.0) drops, or just throw down for a PS3, with it’s now-auxiliary gaming functionality.

    Am I a Blu-ray hater? No. Am I a “profile” hater? Absolutely, and I can’t stand it when people like yourself try to draw a similarity between Blu-ray and HD DVD in this regard.

    It is entirely baseless.

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